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<description> At the end of last year I traded field cultivators. Now when I try to allocate this equipment to a field the only depreciation that is being allocated is the amount on the &amp;quot;boot&amp;quot; paid. The depreciation for the original asset which was traded in is not being included on my enterprise statements. The depreciation report shows the proper expense and the traded asset shows up correctly under the new asset. I have been using this program for many years and have never noticed this before, of course I may have never looked at it this closely before either. I guess I always assumed that the trade in depreciation was included with the new asset. I don't see any way to spread the depreciation on the trade as that piece of equipment is no longer available on my machine list. Is this a flaw in the program or could I have done something wrong?</description><link>http://www.farmworks.com/uk/forum/read.php?3,67453,67453#msg-67453</link><lastBuildDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 10:15:00 -0400</lastBuildDate>
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<title>Re: Depreciation on traded asset</title><link>http://www.farmworks.com/uk/forum/read.php?3,67453,67495#msg-67495</link><description><![CDATA[ Your work around will be your best option, with the version you have now. Using the newest version will give you more options (as I stated before), just an FYI.]]></description>
<dc:creator>KathyCline</dc:creator>
<category>Office - Accounting</category><pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 09:18:37 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Depreciation on traded asset</title><link>http://www.farmworks.com/uk/forum/read.php?3,67453,67481#msg-67481</link><description><![CDATA[ I think I figured out a work around. What if I allocate additional depreciation to the new asset equal to the amount of the depreciation that is already allocated to the traded asset, through the allocate inputs screen? I tried this on a test basis and it appears to work. It spreads the correct amount onto the entrerprise statements which is my ultimate goal. The only thing is it will give me a negative amount allocated for depreciation expense, which shouldn't be a problem should it? This negative amount is deceiving as although the depreciation expense was allocated to all the assets including previously traded assets, the depreciation on traded assets never shows up in any enterprise statements or is it capitalized into inventory.<br /><br />I think I will handle all future trades as you discussed previously. Thanks for all your help]]></description>
<dc:creator>BrianV</dc:creator>
<category>Office - Accounting</category><pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:21:49 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Depreciation on traded asset</title><link>http://www.farmworks.com/uk/forum/read.php?3,67453,67471#msg-67471</link><description><![CDATA[ No, if the year has already been closed, it is too late. Please give me a call at 800-282-4103 and we can discuss other options. If another technician answers, explain I told you to call me.]]></description>
<dc:creator>KathyCline</dc:creator>
<category>Office - Accounting</category><pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 08:00:34 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Depreciation on traded asset</title><link>http://www.farmworks.com/uk/forum/read.php?3,67453,67470#msg-67470</link><description><![CDATA[ Yeah it makes sense, basically you're posting a &quot;fake&quot; sale for the trade allowance and recording a purchase for the total price. The only question I have is that I made this purchase in the prior fiscal year and I have already closed the books for year end and made multiple transactions in the new year. Will it work to void this transaction from the previous year?]]></description>
<dc:creator>BrianV</dc:creator>
<category>Office - Accounting</category><pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 22:00:45 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Depreciation on traded asset</title><link>http://www.farmworks.com/uk/forum/read.php?3,67453,67469#msg-67469</link><description><![CDATA[ Brian,<br /><br />I just had a thought, if your goal is to remove the old traded item from books, you could follow these steps:<br /><br />1. Void this new equipment purchase transaction.<br />2. Go to the Asset Depreciation. Check with tax preparer on what current year depreciation may be taken on this traded item and enter this number in the Current Year Column. Click OK.<br />3. Go to Accounting-GL-chart of accounts.<br />4. Right click on the heading called Other current Assets and select new account.<br />5. Type a description such as Equipment Holding account. Leave the Offset section to NONE. Click OK.<br />6. Go to the Accounting-Income, Sales and Deposits-Record Income or Sales.<br />7. Select Purchaser - (company that took the trade in), date and description.<br />8. Click on the Equipment Sale button.<br />9. Select the item that was traded.<br />10. Sell this equipment for only the current Book Value and click OK.<br />11. Click on the Other Sales and Expense Reductions button.<br />12. Enter a neg dollar amount matching the equipment sale.<br />13. Change account on left to other accounts. Highlight the Equipment Holding account and click OK.<br />14. Total Sales will be zero. Record and Done.<br />15. Go to the Record Payments and Purchases.<br />16. Select Vendor-date and description.<br />17. Click on the Equipment Purchase button. Select from drop down list the new equipment items setup from the Voided Transaction.<br />18. Enter the correct account and purchase dollar amount (original cost - less the trade in value + Book Value from traded item). Click OK.<br />19. Click on the Other Asset (Stock) button.<br />20. Select the Equipment holding account name from drop down list. Enter a neg. dollar amount displayed from Current Balance. Click OK.<br />21. Enter any transaction fees etc. until total cost matches original transaction that as voided.<br />22. Complete the How you paid section as before. OK.<br />23. Record and Done.<br /><br />This process will provide the numbers you are looking for on the new equipment item. Hope this makes sense.]]></description>
<dc:creator>KathyCline</dc:creator>
<category>Office - Accounting</category><pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:47:47 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Depreciation on traded asset</title><link>http://www.farmworks.com/uk/forum/read.php?3,67453,67468#msg-67468</link><description><![CDATA[ I see an indented line right below my new equipment containing the info from the traded equipment such as original cost Depr etc. I could record the current depreciation from the traded asset on the new asset. This would get the right total depreciation, but will only work until the book value of the new asset runs out.<br /><br />If I would switch to the new version would it work retroactively on previous trades, or just on new assets purchased?]]></description>
<dc:creator>BrianV</dc:creator>
<category>Office - Accounting</category><pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 11:02:37 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Depreciation on traded asset</title><link>http://www.farmworks.com/uk/forum/read.php?3,67453,67465#msg-67465</link><description><![CDATA[ Unfortunately, in that older version, the option choice to keep to remove, was not available. The current version is 2012.03.517. There have been so many accounting enhancements, you should really consider updating. I am stretching my memory, but I believe if the traded item still had book value (not fully depreciated) this value would roll to the new equipment item (New cost - less trade-in + book value of traded item = net cost of new equipment). All we can do right now is go to Accounting-Depreciation-Asset Depreciation. Locate the new equipment item, do you see indented right below the equipment that was traded and what numbers do you see here?]]></description>
<dc:creator>KathyCline</dc:creator>
<category>Office - Accounting</category><pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 08:11:24 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Depreciation on traded asset</title><link>http://www.farmworks.com/uk/forum/read.php?3,67453,67463#msg-67463</link><description><![CDATA[ When I click on the trade-in button I do not see a settings button. All the buttons I have are &quot;OK&quot; &quot;Cancel&quot; and &quot;Help&quot;. I am using version 2008.12.373 if that makes any difference.]]></description>
<dc:creator>BrianV</dc:creator>
<category>Office - Accounting</category><pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 23:52:32 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Depreciation on traded asset</title><link>http://www.farmworks.com/uk/forum/read.php?3,67453,67458#msg-67458</link><description><![CDATA[ Edit the original purcahse with trade in option. Click on the icon to left of Trade-in line displayed from the How you paid section. When the Trade-in screen appears, click on the Settings button. Is the Keep traded item or Remove Traded Item selected in the section at bottom called Equipment Trade-ins?]]></description>
<dc:creator>KathyCline</dc:creator>
<category>Office - Accounting</category><pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:20:14 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Depreciation on traded asset</title><link>http://www.farmworks.com/uk/forum/read.php?3,67453,67453#msg-67453</link><description><![CDATA[ At the end of last year I traded field cultivators. Now when I try to allocate this equipment to a field the only depreciation that is being allocated is the amount on the &quot;boot&quot; paid. The depreciation for the original asset which was traded in is not being included on my enterprise statements. The depreciation report shows the proper expense and the traded asset shows up correctly under the new asset. I have been using this program for many years and have never noticed this before, of course I may have never looked at it this closely before either. I guess I always assumed that the trade in depreciation was included with the new asset. I don't see any way to spread the depreciation on the trade as that piece of equipment is no longer available on my machine list. Is this a flaw in the program or could I have done something wrong?]]></description>
<dc:creator>BrianV</dc:creator>
<category>Office - Accounting</category><pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 09:35:38 -0400</pubDate></item>
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